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[F] (I think) Arthur King of Time and Space [message #211184] So, 22 Januar 2006 00:59
Jenny Delaney  
*cough*

Apparently someone on this group has been getting creative.

http://www.arthurkingoftimeandspace.com/0611.htm

Jenny
Re: [F] (I think) Arthur King of Time and Space [message #211185 ] So, 22 Januar 2006 01:09
naomi  
Jenny Delaney wrote:
> *cough*
>
> Apparently someone on this group has been getting creative.
>
> http://www.arthurkingoftimeandspace.com/0611.htm
>
> Jenny

Kewl !
Re: [F] (I think) Arthur King of Time and Space [message #211206 ] So, 22 Januar 2006 02:42
Puck  
Jenny Delaney wrote:
> *cough*
>
> Apparently someone on this group has been getting creative.
>
> http://www.arthurkingoftimeandspace.com/0611.htm
>
> Jenny

Heheh. Cool.
--
Puck (onstage): I am that merry wanderer of the night!
Peaseblossom (in audience): "I am that merry wanderer of the night",
indeed! "I am that
giggling-dangerous-totally-bloody-psychotic-menace-to-life and limb,
more like." -Neil Gaiman
Re: [I] (I think) Arthur King of Time and Space [message #211231 ] So, 22 Januar 2006 13:14
sphira9343  
Jenny Delaney wrote:
> *cough*
>
> Apparently someone on this group has been getting creative.
>
> http://www.arthurkingoftimeandspace.com/0611.htm

Good stuff! :-)
CCA
Re: [F] (I think) Arthur King of Time and Space [message #211237 ] So, 22 Januar 2006 14:26
Brian Wakeling  
In a speech called HVzAf.3172$mu.2761 [at] fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk,
Jenny Delaney uttered thus:
> *cough*
>
> Apparently someone on this group has been getting creative.
>
> http://www.arthurkingoftimeandspace.com/0611.htm
>
> Jenny

Nice.

On a similar, yet unrelated note, I have just started my own webcomic.

http://freespace.virgin.net/b.wakeling/Beer/Beer.html

It's called BeerMonster, and although at the moment it's only got one
issue and a pretty poor joke, it will improve.


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Re: [F] (I think) Arthur King of Time and Space [message #211242 ] So, 22 Januar 2006 15:11
Daibhid Ceannaideach  
Also Sprach Jenny Delaney:

> *cough*
>
> Apparently someone on this group has been getting creative.
>
> http://www.arthurkingoftimeandspace.com/0611.htm

Hmm, what? Don't know what you're talking about...

(It turned out pretty well, didn't it 8-)?)

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Re: [I] (I think) Arthur King of Time and Space [message #211283 ] So, 22 Januar 2006 20:01
sphira9343  
Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:

> Also Sprach Jenny Delaney:

> > Apparently someone on this group has been getting creative.
> > http://www.arthurkingoftimeandspace.com/0611.htm

> Hmm, what? Don't know what you're talking about...
>
> (It turned out pretty well, didn't it 8-)?)

*has another look*
*notices Daibhid's name there this time* :-)

Excellent stuff Daibhid - are there any more?
CCA
Re: [I] (I think) Arthur King of Time and Space [message #211287 ] So, 22 Januar 2006 20:09
Daibhid Ceannaideach  
Also Sprach CCA:

> Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
>
>> Also Sprach Jenny Delaney:
>
>> > Apparently someone on this group has been getting
>> > creative.
>> > http://www.arthurkingoftimeandspace.com/0611.htm
>
>> Hmm, what? Don't know what you're talking about...
>>
>> (It turned out pretty well, didn't it 8-)?)
>
> *has another look*
> *notices Daibhid's name there this time* :-)
>
> Excellent stuff Daibhid - are there any more?

I've had some character ideas, but I'm not totally happy about
the jokes attatched to them as yet...

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Re: [F] (I think) Arthur King of Time and Space [message #211300 ] So, 22 Januar 2006 21:00
Sofia  
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 13:26:11 +0000, Brian Wakeling wrote:

> On a similar, yet unrelated note, I have just started my own webcomic.
>
> http://freespace.virgin.net/b.wakeling/Beer/Beer.html
>
> It's called BeerMonster, and although at the moment it's only got one
> issue and a pretty poor joke, it will improve.



I loved the pictures in your webcomic Brian - but I just didn't get the
joke, you're right it's pretty poor.

I loved Jesscat's little Comic-Strip of TCOM in the fanart section of
L-space though.


All the best


Sofie

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Re: [F] (I think) Arthur King of Time and Space [message #211305 ] So, 22 Januar 2006 21:18
Daibhid Ceannaideach  
Also Sprach Sofia:

> On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 13:26:11 +0000, Brian Wakeling wrote:
>
>> On a similar, yet unrelated note, I have just started my
>> own webcomic.
>>
>> http://freespace.virgin.net/b.wakeling/Beer/Beer.html
>>
>> It's called BeerMonster, and although at the moment it's
>> only got one issue and a pretty poor joke, it will
>> improve.
>
>
>
> I loved the pictures in your webcomic Brian - but I just
> didn't get the joke, you're right it's pretty poor.

I thought it was funny...



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Re: [F] (I think) Arthur King of Time and Space [message #211347 ] Mo, 23 Januar 2006 00:32
bosola  
Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
> Also Sprach Sofia:
>
>
>>On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 13:26:11 +0000, Brian Wakeling wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On a similar, yet unrelated note, I have just started my
>>>own webcomic.
>>>
>>>http://freespace.virgin.net/b.wakeling/Beer/Beer.html
>>>
>>>It's called BeerMonster, and although at the moment it's
>>>only got one issue and a pretty poor joke, it will
>>>improve.
>>
>>
>>
>>I loved the pictures in your webcomic Brian - but I just
>>didn't get the joke, you're right it's pretty poor.
>
>
> I thought it was funny...
>
>
>

Me too. Got it bookmarked.
Re: [F] (I think) Arthur King of Time and Space [message #211349 ] Mo, 23 Januar 2006 00:32
James Mitchelhill  
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 13:26:11 -0000, Brian Wakeling wrote:

> In a speech called HVzAf.3172$mu.2761 [at] fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk,
> Jenny Delaney uttered thus:
>> *cough*
>>
>> Apparently someone on this group has been getting creative.
>>
>> http://www.arthurkingoftimeandspace.com/0611.htm
>>
>> Jenny
>
> Nice.
>
> On a similar, yet unrelated note, I have just started my own webcomic.
>
> http://freespace.virgin.net/b.wakeling/Beer/Beer.html
>
> It's called BeerMonster, and although at the moment it's only got one
> issue and a pretty poor joke, it will improve.

Nice comic, but eaagh! my eyes! Is the bright blue background really
necessary?

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Re: [F] (I think) Arthur King of Time and Space [message #211375 ] Mo, 23 Januar 2006 06:29
Brian Wakeling  
In a speech called dr14fq$k9a$1 [at] groundhog.korenwolf.net,
Bosola uttered thus:
> Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
>> Also Sprach Sofia:
>>
>>
>>> On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 13:26:11 +0000, Brian Wakeling wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On a similar, yet unrelated note, I have just started my
>>>> own webcomic.
>>>>
>>>> http://freespace.virgin.net/b.wakeling/Beer/Beer.html
>>>>
>>>> It's called BeerMonster, and although at the moment it's
>>>> only got one issue and a pretty poor joke, it will
>>>> improve.
>>>
>>> I loved the pictures in your webcomic Brian - but I just
>>> didn't get the joke, you're right it's pretty poor.
>>
>>
>> I thought it was funny...
>>
>
> Me too. Got it bookmarked.

Oh good, glad someone liked it. As it's only been up a little over 14
hours, and only has the one badly-drawn joke, I wasn't expecting very
much in the way of feedback. You may have noticed I can't draw.

Anyway, now I feel rather anxious about getting next week's update
done to the same (or preferably higher) standard.

And:
In a speech called t3asgi49vjqu$.ik9d74t6a9g4.dlg [at] 40tude.net,
James Mitchelhill uttered thus:
>
> Nice comic, but eaagh! my eyes! Is the bright blue background really
> necessary?

I used the blue because I needed a background on which yellow text is
visible[1]. I'd prefer not to duplicate background colours on my site
(as an aid to navigation), and all the other good ones are mostly
taken. If you have any suggestions for a suitable background colour
that I haven't used eslewhere on my site, I'd be glad to hear it
(submissions accepted via EMail, here, or via the site's contact page,
in RGB format, either decimal or hexidecimal notation).

BTW, what does everybody think of my attempt at octarine on the DW
pages?


[1] and because I know blue and yellow is an accepted colour scheme
from the days of school BBC Micros running interword (I think it was)
and the like. And also, technically, my Amstrad CPC464, which I had a
green monitor for, so I never actually got to see blue.

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Re: [I] (I think) Arthur King of Time and Space [message #211494 ] Mo, 23 Januar 2006 18:03
Sofia  
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 11:01:15 -0800, CCA wrote:

> *has another look*
> *notices Daibhid's name there this time* :-)


OMG! I never noticed it before either - not until you just mentioned it
anyway.

Thanks CCA, would never have known who our "creative afper" was without
you!


All the best


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Re: [F] (I think) Arthur King of Time and Space [message #211497 ] Mo, 23 Januar 2006 18:25
Sofia  
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 05:29:09 +0000, Brian Wakeling wrote:

>>>> I loved the pictures in your webcomic Brian - but I just
>>>> didn't get the joke, you're right it's pretty poor.
>>>
>>>
>>> I thought it was funny...
>>>
>>
>> Me too. Got it bookmarked.


I think this joke may have something to do with Gustav getting his facts
mixed up with his fiction - if I'm wrong again, somebody, preferably
Brian, please explain it to me!

Confused


Sofie

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Re: [F] (I think) Arthur King of Time and Space [message #211499 ] Mo, 23 Januar 2006 18:29
Daibhid Ceannaideach  
Also Sprach Sofia:

> On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 05:29:09 +0000, Brian Wakeling wrote:
>
>>>>> I loved the pictures in your webcomic Brian - but I
>>>>> just didn't get the joke, you're right it's pretty
>>>>> poor.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I thought it was funny...
>>>>
>>>
>>> Me too. Got it bookmarked.
>
>
> I think this joke may have something to do with Gustav
> getting his facts mixed up with his fiction - if I'm wrong
> again, somebody, preferably Brian, please explain it to me!
>
> Confused

Kinda. As I understand it the joke is that Gustav is
complaining about the stereotyped portrayal of Germans as
villains in films. However, as the film they are watching is a
World War II story, the film-makers were largely constrained
by the facts of the matter.

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"I've no idea who I am, but you've just summed me up."
Re: [F] (I think) Arthur King of Time and Space [message #211504 ] Mo, 23 Januar 2006 18:43
James Mitchelhill  
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 05:29:09 -0000, Brian Wakeling wrote:

<snip>
> In a speech called t3asgi49vjqu$.ik9d74t6a9g4.dlg [at] 40tude.net,
> James Mitchelhill uttered thus:
>>
>> Nice comic, but eaagh! my eyes! Is the bright blue background really
>> necessary?
>
> I used the blue because I needed a background on which yellow text is
> visible[1]. I'd prefer not to duplicate background colours on my site
> (as an aid to navigation), and all the other good ones are mostly
> taken. If you have any suggestions for a suitable background colour
> that I haven't used eslewhere on my site, I'd be glad to hear it
> (submissions accepted via EMail, here, or via the site's contact page,
> in RGB format, either decimal or hexidecimal notation).
<snip>

Personally, I wouldn't use background colour to distinguish sections:
finding a single distinctive, yet nice looking scheme is hard enough.

There's better ways to assist people in navigating. Breadcrumbs are one
way, although the research suggests that many people ignore them.
Breadcrumbs look like: "Disorderfeed -> Recipes -> Vegetarian Spaghetti"
(although I don't actually use this).

Of course, it's your site so you can do what you like with it ;)

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Re: [F] (I think) Arthur King of Time and Space [message #211553 ] Mo, 23 Januar 2006 21:57
Sofia  
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 17:29:07 +0000, Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:

> Kinda. As I understand it the joke is that Gustav is
> complaining about the stereotyped portrayal of Germans as
> villains in films. However, as the film they are watching is a
> World War II story, the film-makers were largely constrained
> by the facts of the matter.


Thanks Dave, I thought this was it - but it just seemed too simple, too
easy to be right. I just thought there was a bigger punch line somewhere
that I'd missed - it was such a CRAP joke!

Thanks again


Sofie



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Re: [F] (I think) Arthur King of Time and Space [message #211792 ] Di, 24 Januar 2006 20:17
Brian Wakeling  
In a speech called pan.2006.01.23.20.57.53.52331 [at] ALLCAPSyahoo.com,
Sofia uttered thus:
> On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 17:29:07 +0000, Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
>
>> Kinda. As I understand it the joke is that Gustav is
>> complaining about the stereotyped portrayal of Germans as
>> villains in films. However, as the film they are watching is a
>> World War II story, the film-makers were largely constrained
>> by the facts of the matter.
>
>
> Thanks Dave, I thought this was it - but it just seemed too simple,
> too easy to be right. I just thought there was a bigger punch line
> somewhere that I'd missed - it was such a CRAP joke!
>

Glad you liked it...

(Look out for next week's installment, that's all I say!)

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Re: [F] (I think) Arthur King of Time and Space [message #212703 ] So, 29 Januar 2006 13:26
Brian Wakeling  
In a speech called 43ncr2F1ns8tsU1 [at] individual.net,
Brian Wakeling uttered thus:
> In a speech called pan.2006.01.23.20.57.53.52331 [at] ALLCAPSyahoo.com,
> Sofia uttered thus:
>> On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 17:29:07 +0000, Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
>>
>>> Kinda. As I understand it the joke is that Gustav is
>>> complaining about the stereotyped portrayal of Germans as
>>> villains in films. However, as the film they are watching is a
>>> World War II story, the film-makers were largely constrained
>>> by the facts of the matter.
>>
>>
>> Thanks Dave, I thought this was it - but it just seemed too simple,
>> too easy to be right. I just thought there was a bigger punch line
>> somewhere that I'd missed - it was such a CRAP joke!
>>
>
> Glad you liked it...
>
> (Look out for next week's installment, that's all I say!)

And "next week's installment" has just been uploaded...

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Re: [F] (I think) Arthur King of Time and Space [message #213686 ] Mo, 30 Januar 2006 21:39
Sofia  
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 12:26:26 +0000, Brian Wakeling wrote:

>>> Thanks Dave, I thought this was it - but it just seemed too simple,
>>> too easy to be right. I just thought there was a bigger punch line
>>> somewhere that I'd missed - it was such a CRAP joke!
>>>
>>
>> Glad you liked it...
>>
>> (Look out for next week's installment, that's all I say!)
>
> And "next week's installment" has just been uploaded...



I'll look forward to it Brian, I just hope it's not as CRAPPY as the last
one. :-)


All the best


Sofie

PS. I added myself to your fanmapp today too!

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Re: [F] (I think) Arthur King of Time and Space [message #234588 ] Mo, 06 März 2006 00:27
Brian Wakeling  
In a speech called 43j7tpF1nq1rrU1 [at] individual.net,
Brian Wakeling uttered thus:
> In a speech called dr14fq$k9a$1 [at] groundhog.korenwolf.net,
> Bosola uttered thus:
>> Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
>>> Also Sprach Sofia:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 13:26:11 +0000, Brian Wakeling wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On a similar, yet unrelated note, I have just started my
>>>>> own webcomic.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://freespace.virgin.net/b.wakeling/Beer/Beer.html
>>>>>
>>>>> It's called BeerMonster, and although at the moment it's
>>>>> only got one issue and a pretty poor joke, it will
>>>>> improve.
>>>>
>>>> I loved the pictures in your webcomic Brian - but I just
>>>> didn't get the joke, you're right it's pretty poor.
>>>
>>>
>>> I thought it was funny...
>>>
>>
>> Me too. Got it bookmarked.
>
> Oh good, glad someone liked it. As it's only been up a little over
> 14 hours, and only has the one badly-drawn joke, I wasn't expecting
> very much in the way of feedback. You may have noticed I can't draw.
>
> Anyway, now I feel rather anxious about getting next week's update
> done to the same (or preferably higher) standard.

And for anyone still following it, the followup joke to issue 1 has
just been uploaded.

Seven weeks so far, and no sign of running out of material - which is
surprising.


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Re: [F] (I think) Arthur King of Time and Space [message #234665 ] Mo, 06 März 2006 23:27
Sofia  
On Sun, 05 Mar 2006 23:27:45 +0000, Brian Wakeling wrote:

>
> And for anyone still following it, the followup joke to issue 1 has
> just been uploaded.
>
> Seven weeks so far, and no sign of running out of material - which is
> surprising.



Hi Brian, I've been waiting for a follow up crappy Beer Monster joke to
your first one, and keep going back to your homepage to have a look for
it, but I just can't find anything. Has the second one been uploaded yet?
If not, can you give me a specific date when it'll come out so I'll stop
going back to your homepage to look for it.


All the best


Sofie

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Re: [F] (I think) Arthur King of Time and Space [message #234679 ] Di, 07 März 2006 00:56
Brian Wakeling  
In a speech called pan.2006.03.06.22.27.59.409811 [at] ALLCAPSyahoo.com,
Sofia uttered thus:
> On Sun, 05 Mar 2006 23:27:45 +0000, Brian Wakeling wrote:
>
>>
>> And for anyone still following it, the followup joke to issue 1 has
>> just been uploaded.
>>
>> Seven weeks so far, and no sign of running out of material - which
>> is surprising.
>
> Hi Brian, I've been waiting for a follow up crappy Beer Monster
> joke to your first one, and keep going back to your homepage to
> have a look for it, but I just can't find anything. Has the second
> one been uploaded yet? If not, can you give me a specific date when
> it'll come out so I'll stop going back to your homepage to look for
> it.

The BeerMonster webcomic is at
http://freespace.virgin.net/b.wakeling/Beer/Beer.html

It is now in week 7, updating every Sunday just before midnight. The
follow-up joke to the joke in week one is this week, and there are
five other different jokes available for your viewing pleasure.


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Re: [F] (I think) Arthur King of Time and Space [message #234764 ] Di, 07 März 2006 18:20
Sofia  
On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 23:56:45 +0000, Brian Wakeling wrote:

> The BeerMonster webcomic is at
> http://freespace.virgin.net/b.wakeling/Beer/Beer.html
>
> It is now in week 7, updating every Sunday just before midnight. The
> follow-up joke to the joke in week one is this week, and there are
> five other different jokes available for your viewing pleasure.


I'll wait till Monday for the second one then - and if it's not there,
I'm going to give you hell at the London afpmeet on the 25th! :-)


All the best


Sofie

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Re: [F] (I think) Arthur King of Time and Space [message #234772 ] Di, 07 März 2006 19:37
Brian Wakeling  
In a speech called pan.2006.03.07.17.20.06.80031 [at] ALLCAPSyahoo.com,
Sofia uttered thus:
> On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 23:56:45 +0000, Brian Wakeling wrote:
>
>> The BeerMonster webcomic is at
>> http://freespace.virgin.net/b.wakeling/Beer/Beer.html
>>
>> It is now in week 7, updating every Sunday just before midnight.
>> The follow-up joke to the joke in week one is this week, and there
>> are five other different jokes available for your viewing pleasure.
>
>
> I'll wait till Monday for the second one then

It's been there since Sunday 5/3/6 11.56pm. Try clicking the arrows.

> - and if it's not
> there, I'm going to give you hell at the London afpmeet on the
> 25th! :-)

Are you, indeed?


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Re: [F] (I think) Arthur King of Time and Space [message #234811 ] Di, 07 März 2006 21:20
Sofia  
On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 18:37:36 +0000, Brian Wakeling wrote:

> It's been there since Sunday 5/3/6 11.56pm. Try clicking the arrows.

Hi Brian, I've been clicking on the arrows for ages, but I just keep
getting the first joke, or the cast - isn't anybody else getting this
problem, or is it something wrong on my end perhaps?


>> - and if it's not
>> there, I'm going to give you hell at the London afpmeet on the 25th!
>> :-)
>
> Are you, indeed?


Well, once I start talking, nobody else gets a word in edgways! I can talk
more non-stop crap than your crap beer monster, so I'll give hubby a rest
for a while, by picking on somebody else to torture for a couple of hours
- you'll feel like you're in hell anyway! :-)


Snigger, snigger


Sofie

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Re: [F] (I think) Arthur King of Time and Space [message #234832 ] Di, 07 März 2006 22:37
Daibhid Ceannaideach  
Also Sprach Sofia:

> On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 18:37:36 +0000, Brian Wakeling
wrote:
>
>> It's been there since Sunday 5/3/6 11.56pm. Try
clicking
>> the arrows.
>
> Hi Brian, I've been clicking on the arrows for
ages, but I
> just keep getting the first joke, or the cast -
isn't
> anybody else getting this problem, or is it
something wrong
> on my end perhaps?

It working fine for me...

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Re: [F] (I think) Arthur King of Time and Space [message #235059 ] Mi, 08 März 2006 21:54
Sofia  
On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 21:37:14 +0000, Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:

>> Hi Brian, I've been clicking on the arrows for
> ages, but I
>> just keep getting the first joke, or the cast -
> isn't
>> anybody else getting this problem, or is it
> something wrong
>> on my end perhaps?
>
> It working fine for me...


It's strange, I could get through to Brian's homepage, and the first
Beer Monster cartoon, but the arrows wouldn't budge after that. I tried to
get through on Firefox, Opera, and Konquerer, and even Lynx, to any of
Brian's other web-comics, but the arrows wouldn't budge for me - I don't
use Windows, or Internet Explorer, but I'm using a Linux system, so maybe,
that's what the problem is.


All the best


Sofie

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Re: [F] (I think) Arthur King of Time and Space [message #235090 ] Mi, 08 März 2006 23:55
Brian Wakeling  
In a speech called pan.2006.03.08.20.54.54.739781 [at] ALLCAPSyahoo.com,
Sofia uttered thus:
> On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 21:37:14 +0000, Daibhid Ceanaideach wrote:
>
>>> Hi Brian, I've been clicking on the arrows for
>> ages, but I
>>> just keep getting the first joke, or the cast -
>> isn't
>>> anybody else getting this problem, or is it
>> something wrong
>>> on my end perhaps?
>>
>> It working fine for me...
>
>
> It's strange, I could get through to Brian's homepage, and the first
> Beer Monster cartoon, but the arrows wouldn't budge after that. I
> tried to get through on Firefox, Opera, and Konquerer, and even
> Lynx, to any of Brian's other web-comics, but the arrows wouldn't
> budge for me - I don't use Windows, or Internet Explorer, but I'm
> using a Linux system, so maybe, that's what the problem is.

I'm assuming you have JavaScript enabled, right?

If you do, and you're still not getting the newer ones, I'll have to
think of the best way to implement an archive page - which will
probably look a bit silly until I get about 20 entries on it.


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Re: [F] (I think) Arthur King of Time and Space [message #235097 ] Do, 09 März 2006 00:20
Brenda  
Brian Wakeling said:
> Sofia uttered thus:
>> I don't use Windows, or Internet Explorer, but I'm
>> using a Linux system, so maybe, that's what the problem is.

That's not the problem. That's the solution.

>
> I'm assuming you have JavaScript enabled, right?

That's probably a bad assumption. A lot of people disable JavaScript.

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Re: [F] (I think) Arthur King of Time and Space [message #235104 ] Do, 09 März 2006 00:35
Brian Wakeling  
In a speech called dunor4$212$2 [at] nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com,
Richard Heathfield uttered thus:
> Brian Wakeling said:
>> Sofia uttered thus:
>>> I don't use Windows, or Internet Explorer, but I'm
>>> using a Linux system, so maybe, that's what the problem is.
>
> That's not the problem. That's the solution.
>
>>
>> I'm assuming you have JavaScript enabled, right?
>
> That's probably a bad assumption. A lot of people disable
> JavaScript.

To the best of my recollection, on both the sites I manage, there have
only been half a dozen people with JavaScript disabled. As they have a
combined lifetime hit total of over 15,000, I think it's a fairly safe
assumption that visitors have JS enabled.


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Re: [F] (I think) Arthur King of Time and Space [message #235120 ] Do, 09 März 2006 01:19
Brenda  
Brian Wakeling said:

> To the best of my recollection, on both the sites I manage, there have
> only been half a dozen people with JavaScript disabled. As they have a
> combined lifetime hit total of over 15,000, I think it's a fairly safe
> assumption that visitors have JS enabled.

I'd have expected more like 1,500 of those 15,000 to have JS disabled.

Perhaps Sturgeon's Law needs updating.

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Re: [F] (I think) Arthur King of Time and Space [message #235205 ] Do, 09 März 2006 15:10
Arthur Hagen  
Brian Wakeling <bpwakeling [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> To the best of my recollection, on both the sites I manage, there have
> only been half a dozen people with JavaScript disabled.

How would you know?

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Re: [F] (I think) Arthur King of Time and Space [message #235207 ] Do, 09 März 2006 15:13
esmi  
on 08/03/2006 23:35 Brian Wakeling said the following:

> To the best of my recollection, on both the sites I manage, there have
> only been half a dozen people with JavaScript disabled.

General rule of thumb: It's usually best to assume as many as 10% of all
potential visitors do not have js enabled for one reason or another.

> As they have a
> combined lifetime hit total of over 15,000, I think it's a fairly safe
> assumption that visitors have JS enabled.

Not really. All you can assume, if you have been relying on javascript,
is that most of those hits were probably requests from js-enabled
browsers. What you can't estimate is how many people abandoned the
site(s) after just 1 page because, from their, non-javascript
perspective - it appeared to be broken.

esmi
Re: [F] (I think) Arthur King of Time and Space [message #235292 ] Do, 09 März 2006 20:15
Brian Wakeling  
In a speech called dupd15$925$1 [at] tree.lightning.broomstick.com,
Arthur Hagen uttered thus:
> Brian Wakeling <bpwakeling [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> To the best of my recollection, on both the sites I manage, there
>> have only been half a dozen people with JavaScript disabled.
>
> How would you know?
>
> Regards,

www.statcounter.com

It can tell me what system and browser each visitor is running, where
they are in the world, how long they stayed on each page, which pages
they viewed, and where they came from and went to - but only if they
have JS enabled. If JS is disabled, it records that someone has
visited a page tagged for counting and nothing more. It can
differentiate between return visits and multiple page-views per visit
as well.



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Re: [F] (I think) Arthur King of Time and Space [message #235297 ] Do, 09 März 2006 20:25
Brian Wakeling  
In a speech called vKWPf.32980$wl.7972 [at] text.news.blueyonder.co.uk,
esmi uttered thus:
> on 08/03/2006 23:35 Brian Wakeling said the following:
>
>> To the best of my recollection, on both the sites I manage, there
>> have only been half a dozen people with JavaScript disabled.
>
> General rule of thumb: It's usually best to assume as many as 10%
> of all potential visitors do not have js enabled for one reason or
> another.
>> As they have a
>> combined lifetime hit total of over 15,000, I think it's a fairly
>> safe assumption that visitors have JS enabled.
>
> Not really. All you can assume, if you have been relying on
> javascript, is that most of those hits were probably requests from
> js-enabled browsers. What you can't estimate is how many people
> abandoned the site(s) after just 1 page because, from their,
> non-javascript perspective - it appeared to be broken.

In general, I only use JS for mouseovers, and "go forward/back a page"
buttons. That's it - just the most basic bell with very little
whistle. This is partly because I code in notepad and a load of
excessive punctuation and extended word strings look out of place, and
partly because I can't be arsed to learn more than the basics.

I only use a JS slideshow script for BeerMonster to save space - I
only have 10MB of webspace available, and I'm up to something like 6.5
already. I want to be able to do a decent run of BeerMonster, and keep
all the other areas of my site up to date for the forseeable future
and beyond, so doing a new page for each issue is not only
time-consuming it's space-consuming as well. Even when each image
averages about 25kB, a cumulative run of seperate pages and constantly
updated index would soon drive down my available space. The way I do
it, I only need to add a new line to the description field every week,
and change the numbers of the latest slide and slide to be displayed
first.



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Re: [F] (I think) Arthur King of Time and Space [message #235305 ] Do, 09 März 2006 20:47
Arthur Hagen  
Brian Wakeling <bpwakeling [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
> In a speech called dupd15$925$1 [at] tree.lightning.broomstick.com,
> Arthur Hagen uttered thus:
>> Brian Wakeling <bpwakeling [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> To the best of my recollection, on both the sites I manage, there
>>> have only been half a dozen people with JavaScript disabled.
>>
>> How would you know?
>>
>> Regards,
>
> www.statcounter.com
>
> It can tell me what system and browser each visitor is running, where
> they are in the world, how long they stayed on each page, which pages
> they viewed, and where they came from and went to - but only if they
> have JS enabled. If JS is disabled, it records that someone has
> visited a page tagged for counting and nothing more. It can
> differentiate between return visits and multiple page-views per visit
> as well.

Then you don't know, cause other things influence external counters,
including (but not limited to) combinations of:

Blocking of 3rd party images
Blocking of 3rd party javascript
Blocking of 3rd party cookies
Blocking of all cookies
Keyword blocking image (like URIs containing "counter\.")
Keyword blocking cookies
Keyword blocking javascript
Cookie randomizers
Load balancing proxy servers

The combination of all of the above makes the total uncertainty QUITE high.
If I were to visit your web site, for example, I would appear as two
different visitors to your web log, and not appear at all to the external
counter.

Regards,
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Re: [F] (I think) Arthur King of Time and Space [message #235315 ] Do, 09 März 2006 22:46
Sofia  
On Thu, 09 Mar 2006 19:15:51 +0000, Brian Wakeling wrote:

> It can tell me what system and browser each visitor is running, where
> they are in the world, how long they stayed on each page, which pages
> they viewed, and where they came from and went to - but only if they
> have JS enabled. If JS is disabled, it records that someone has
> visited a page tagged for counting and nothing more. It can
> differentiate between return visits and multiple page-views per visit
> as well.


That's probably how you might have known that you were right all the time
Brian - I have got Java Script installed - and on every single browser I
tried to get on to your other web-comics.

It makes no difference though, I still couldn't get through. Hubby thinks
that you may be using an older code, in comparison with the much newer,
updated code we're using?


All the best


Sofie

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Re: [F] (I think) Arthur King of Time and Space [message #236191 ] Di, 14 März 2006 00:40
aqusenet  
Arthur Hagen <art [at] broomstick.com> wrote:

> Then you don't know, cause other things influence external counters,
> including (but not limited to) combinations of:
>
> Blocking of 3rd party images
> Blocking of 3rd party javascript
> Blocking of 3rd party cookies
> Blocking of all cookies
> Keyword blocking image (like URIs containing "counter\.")
> Keyword blocking cookies
> Keyword blocking javascript
> Cookie randomizers

As it happens, most of those are one, fairly small in the grand scheme
of things, collection of people. They range on a sliding scale of people
who are overly paranoid to people who are too stupid to know what
they're doing so they turn off all the check boxes to make things
"safer".

> Load balancing proxy servers

This, however, is a large portion of UK net surfers.


(Javascript is not automatically evil, and can be used to enhance your
use of the site. The trick, however, is to make the site work first
_without_ CSS, Javascript, AJAX, Flash and whatever, and then to add
them where it makes life _easier_.

If you have a site which _requires_ Javascript, you'd better have a damn
good reason.)
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